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Well, where do I start? I could start at many stages in my life; all very exciting and adventurous in some sort of way. Probably best to start when I met my husband 10 years ago, as this was the turning point in my very emotional and dramatic life. Met Ben through work, we had a wonderful life together, very ambitious, career driven until we decided to started a family 4 years later. The fertility Journey did take 2 years to conceive but we got there eventually and conceived little Thomas, now for someone like me who has no patience what so ever this was a agonizing and stressful wait but well worth it. We moved from our home town Bournemouth to Ipswich with Ben's work, I gave up my careern and then married in Cumbria in 2009. We continued to have 2 more children very easily compared to Thomas, Jesiica and Baby Wilson.

Wednesday 28 November 2012

How to use progesterone to extend the luteal phase


How to use progesterone to extend the luteal phase

A low dose of progesterone will not help. 100-200mg/day or more progesterone should be used, depending on symptoms. In some cases up to 400mg/day will be needed. It should be used from ovulation, or during the 50 hour pre-ovulatory surge.

If used too early i.e. 7 to 8 days before ovulation, which is when many women are told to start it, progesterone can act as a contraceptive, but usually 200mg/day or more are needed. So starting too early can prevent the chance of falling pregnant.
When to start using progesterone

It is advisable to start the progesterone well before pregnancy to allow the body to adjust. Many women are started on progesterone many days, often weeks after they fall pregnant and suffer oestrogen dominance symptoms. It's bad enough suffering from these when first pregnant, but twice?! For more info please see the page on Oestrogen Dominance.
How to check when ovulation has occurred

Taking temperature readings or using a mini microscope will help to check for ovulation, the mini microscope is more reliable, as temperature can vary from as little as 0.5 degrees to 5 degrees.

Saliva or vaginal mucus is used for the test, by dabbing a small amount on the end of the microscope. During the follicular phase, the pattern formed by the saliva/mucus is spotty, as ovulation draws near a fern like pattern starts emerging, becoming completely fern like when ovulation has occurred, returning to the spotty pattern almost immediately. For more information see Ovulation Microscope.

Normal oral body temperature in adult men and women ranges between 33.2-38.2°C (92-101°F). Typical average temperatures are 37.0°C (98.6°F).

In women it varies between the follicular and the luteal phase. During the follicular phase, i.e. from the first day of menstruation to ovulation, it ranges from 36.45 to 36.7°C (97.6 to 98.1°F).

During the 12-14 day luteal phase, i.e. after ovulation to menstruation, temperature increases by 0.15 - 0.45°C (0.2 - 0.9°F) due to the increased metabolic rate caused by rapidly rising levels of progesterone. Temperature ranges between 36.7 - 37.3°C (98.1 - 99.2°F) during the luteal phase, but drops down to follicular levels within a few days of bleeding.
Fertilisation

One of the most important things to remember about conception is the life span of the sperm and ovum. The average life of the sperm appears to be two to three days, sometimes longer, but the ovum only lives twelve hours and in rare cases twenty four hours.

All research points to a greater success in conception if intercourse takes place in the one to two days prior to ovulation, when the fern like pattern is almost complete. This is during the preovulatory progesterone surge.

This allows time for the sperm to travel through the uterus and up the Fallopian tubes to meet the egg before it becomes over mature or it dies. One of the problems with an over mature egg is it diminishes the chances of fertilisation, can result in a miscarriage or result in foetal abnormalities. The health of the future child is dependant on these factors.

The nearer intercourse takes place to ovulation, the greater the chances of conception.
Pregnancy

It must be remembered that twelve to fourteen days is necessary for the lining to mature enough to receive a fertilised egg. If bleeding does occur, it means the egg has not been fertilised or implantation has not taken place. The progesterone should then be stopped and only started again at the next ovulation. If bleeding does not start fourteen days later, it is possible that fertilisation and implantation have occurred.

On no account must the progesterone be stopped at this stage, otherwise it could cause a miscarriage.

If there is no menstruation and pregnancy is confirmed, the progesterone should be continued, using between 100-200mg/day or more until the fourth month. After the critical stage has passed the progesterone it can be tapered off slowly, or can be continued until birth.

The majority of women are advised to stop cold turkey, this is not advisable. Progesterone withdrawal can not only cause a miscarriage if the placenta is making insufficient at this point. But other adverse symptoms can occur. These are the same as those experienced due to progesterone withdrawal the few days prior to bleeding during the monthly cycle.

If tapering off, the amount should be reduced very slowly, taking about a month to do so. This is easy to do if using a progesterone cream, difficult if using injections or suppositories. Either switch to a cream, or in the case of injections withdraw slightly less progesterone from the vial for each reduction. In the case of suppositories, divide them into 25mg pieces, adjusting the tapering by using as many pieces as required.

It's advisable to continue using progesterone until birth if there's a likelihood of a pre-term birth or pre-eclampsia.

Please monitor symptoms, and if spotting, headaches, water retention or nausea should occur increase the amount and continue using it till birth. In some women water retention and a rise in blood pressure sometimes occurs in the last one to two months, please increase the amount if this should happen.

If nausea occurs 400-800mg/day is needed to stop it.

It is the first three, possibly four months that are critical. 25% of miscarriages occur during the first six weeks when the child is still in the embryo stage. The risk drops to 8% after eight weeks, when the child is now termed a foetus.

During this time the placenta is developing and after about two months starts secreting progesterone, while ovarian production starts declining. If at this point placental production is insufficient to meet the demands of the growing foetus a miscarriage can occur. It is therefore advisable to continue with the supplemental progesterone until at least the third month. All being well the placenta continues to make progesterone in increasing amounts until birth, when levels drop abruptly with the expulsion of the placenta, or afterbirth as it's now generally termed.
Miscarriages and Pre-term births

Many factors cause miscarriages, far too many for here. But a few are chromosomal alterations, uterine anomalies, antiphospholipid antibodies, exposure to bisphenol A an endocrine disruptor, high alcohol intake, high levels of the inflammatory cytokines TNFa and IL-6, and natural killer cells, if activated by TNFa, may cause the death of the embryo. Progesterone suppresses TNFa and IL-6 activity, and excessive NK cell activity.

Of significance for this page are low levels of progesterone and Vitamin D, and high levels of oestrogen and free testosterone, often overlooked. A level of progesterone over 12.3 ng/ml in early pregnancy indicates a normal pregnancy.

A ratio of 1.05 or higher for free testosterone to total testosterone indicates a miscarriage is likely. But if the free testosterone ratio is lower than 0.84 a normal pregnancy occurs. The reasoning behind this is excess oestrogen causes foetal death. The enzyme 5-alpha reductase Type 1 mRNA is induced in the pregnant brain, this inactivates testosterone, which reduces the available substrate for oestrogen synthesis.

Progesterone also inhibits the enzyme aromatase, which effects the conversion of testosterone to oestrogen.

A short cervix increases the risk of pre-term births, progesterone reduces the risk.

It is also essential to bear in mind that stress can cause a miscarriage. The rise in cortisol in response to the stress, results in a drop in the progesterone level, this in turn can lead to spotting or a miscarriage. To prevent this, as soon as any stress is felt, increase the amount of progesterone till it has passed. If any Anxiety is felt please look through this page.

Many women are devastated by a miscarriage, understandably, but none are warned that as many as 20% of all pregnancies end in a miscarriage within two weeks of fertilisation. Another 15% occur within the first fourteen weeks (three and half months).

A short cervix increases the risk of pre-term births, progesterone reduces the risk.

It is also essential to bear in mind that stress can cause a miscarriage. The rise in cortisol in response to the stress, results in a drop in the progesterone level, this in turn can lead to spotting or a miscarriage. To prevent this, as soon as any stress is felt, increase the amount of progesterone till it has passed. If any anxiety is felt please look through this page.

Many women are devastated by a miscarriage, understandably, but none are warned that as many as 20% of all pregnancies end in a miscarriage within two weeks of fertilisation. Another 15% occur within the first fourteen weeks (three and half months).
Preeclampsia

Studies have shown that low progesterone and vitamin D levels are found in preeclampsia. One study finding progesterone was 'pathologically and statistically' lower. Serum allopregnanolone (a potent metabolite of progesterone) was found to be significantly lower too. The Th1 (inflammatory cytokines) and Th2 (anti-inflammatory cytokines) play a role. The number of Th1 cells and the ratio of Th1:Th2 in preeclampsia is significantly higher than in a normal pregnancy. Progesterone and vitamin D both increase levels of Th2.

But a number of other factors have been found to play a role. Women with insulin resistance, high levels of malondialdehyde and homocysteine are at greater risk of developing preeclampsia. A lack of selenium and low levels of glutathione and other antioxidants increase the risk too.

If recurrent miscarriages, pre-term births or preeclampsia have occurred consider using 200-600mg/day progesterone. Many believe progesterone is not effective at preventing these, but the evidence points to far too little progesterone being used in the unsuccessful studies.
Depression

25% of women suffer some form of depression after child birth. From the 'baby blues', to post natal depression (PND), to post natal psychosis (PNP), which can result in infanticide and suicide. Luckily PNP only occurs in 0.05% of women. The depression is caused by the rapid drop in progesterone levels after the expulsion of the placenta. Serotonin levels drop too. Anti-depressants are not required, what is are large amounts of progesterone. From 800mg/day for PND up to 2400mg/day for post natal psychosis, the amounts Dr Dalton found effective.
To recap...
Progesterone must only be used at ovulation, or during the 50 hour preovulatory surge if pregnancy is the aim
Take temperature readings or use a mini microscope to help check for ovulation
On no account must the progesterone be stopped if conception is suspected, otherwise it could cause a miscarriage
It is essential to continue the progesterone over the first 2-3 month critical phase, particularly the first 2 months
It is also essential to bear in mind that stress can cause a miscarriage
The nearer intercourse takes place to ovulation, the greater the chances of conception
Use at least 100-200mg/day progesterone, possibly more
It should always be used a minimum of twice a day by dividing the amount
Make sure sufficient nutrients are taken to support the pregnancy, particularly vitamin D and taurine
Avoid all skin care, foods and drinks which contain endocrine disruptors and other toxins, these can cause epigenetic changes in the foetus
Drugs

Mention should be made of the drugs which are often given in place of progesterone to prevent miscarriages and pre-term births, in the mistaken belief they are one and the same. One is a synthetic progesterone called Duphaston which contains dydrogesterone. Another is 17-hydroxyprogesterone caproate (17-OHP-C), also a synthetic hormone.

But because they're progestins, they are not broken down into the normal progesterone metabolites, such as the all important allopregnanolone. These are as essential as progesterone itself, especially in pregnancy, when the foetus is particularly susceptible to toxins or a lack of necessary nutrients.

A metabolite of progesterone is sometimes used too, 17-Hydroxyprogesterone, this is natural, and increases during the third trimester. It's often called 17-OHP, or 17-OH, or 17-P.

No adverse side affects have been reported with the use of 17-OHP, which is produced primarily by the adrenal glands. But there are safety concerns about 17-OHP-C use. Progesterone is also more potent that 17-OHP-C.
OTC Drugs

Many women take over-the-counter mild analgesics during pregnancy. Drugs such as acetaminophen (paracetamol), and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) like ibuprofen and acetylsalicyclic acid (aspirin). These have been shown to increase the risk of congenital malformations, including cryptorchidism and hypospadia. Paracetamol in particular increased the risk of cryptorchidism as it's a potent inhibitor of androgen production.
hCG

hCG or human chorionic gonadotrophin is a hormone produced by the developing embryo after conception. Once the embryo has implanted a specialised part of the placenta takes over production. The role of hCG is to prevent the corpus luteum from disintegration. The corpus luteum is critical for the production of progesterone for the first 8 weeks, until the placenta begins to take over production. Please note that hCG starts dropping after 13 to 16 weeks GA as the corpus luteum is no longer needed.

GA: Gestational Age or LMP: Last Menstrual Period

It is standard practice to take the last menstrual period as the 'age' of the foetus. This is always regarded as occurring 14 days prior to ovulation. But foetal age can of course vary, as the menstrual cycle varies between 21 to 35 days. Ovulation occurring between days 7 to 21, and therefore conception occurring on or just after. If a woman has a longer or shorter cycle than 28 days, this should be taken into account.

Chart taken from Dr Dalton's book "Once a Month"...


Levels of progesterone during the menstrual cycle and pregnancy



Here's the link to the chapter from Dr Dalton's book 'PMS The Essential Guide to Treatment Options' on the role progesterone plays during pregnancy.

In memory of Dr Katherina (Kittie) Dalton.

To understand the hormonal changes in pregnancy please see the page on Hormone Testing.
Additional information

The growing foetus is an extra burden on the mother, so it is essential to make sure all nutrients the foetus needs are available.

Please consider taking the following each day...
5 000iu's/day vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) vital for a developing foetus, to prevent miscarriages, epigenetic changes, rickets, heart failure, epilepsy, Type 1 diabetes, and upper respiratory track infections in the newborn, to reduce the risk of preeclampsia in the mother
1000-2000mg/day taurine to prevent epilepsy, insulin resistance, impaired glucose tolerance, diabetes, impaired neurological function, vascular dysfunction and growth retardation in the developing foetus and newborn. Taurine is not found in grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, seeds or fruit, only animal protein.
5ml Omega 3 fish oil, particularly DHA, needed by the developing brain
Vitamin B complex with extra folic acid bringing this up to 800mcg/day to prevent neural tube defects. If a vegetarian, please be cautious, as excess folic acid masks a B12 deficiency. A lack of B12 in utero increases the risk of insulin resistance in the child.

Do not take cod liver oil, or any fish liver oil. The excessive vitamin A it contains prevents vitamin D from being absorbed. Take beta-carotene if short of vitamin A.

To clear any confusion, 'fish oil' comes from the muscle of the fish and contains Omega 3. Fish 'liver' oil obviously comes from the liver, it contains large amounts of vitamin A and very small amounts of vitamin D. There is a world of difference between the two.

For more info on vitamin D levels, test kits etc see...Vitamin D Council
GrassrootsHealth
Birmingham Hospital
Vitamin D Links

Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml (175-250nmol/L) and not the 30ng/ml (75nmol/L) most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although recent research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here.

Read all labels on containers, especially those for food and cosmetics. Look for natural alternatives to body care products, many contain high levels of endocrine disruptors and carcinogens, particularly the sunscreens.

Please see Our Stolen Future for more information on endocrine disruptors.

Please see the page on Nutrition for more information about food.

For more information on pregnancy see..

Read more: http://www.progesteronetherapy.com/faq-conception.html#ixzz2DYkYi1QT
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Progesterone Cream



Pregnancy... How to use progesterone before conception and during pregnancy is explained on this page. There's is an explanation of a defective luteal phase and how to extend it. Plus information on the surge of progesterone that comes from the brain prior to ovulation, and how to use progesterone to enhance ovulation and implantation.

Contraception... Progesterone can be used as a contraceptive. It has none of the adverse side effects the drug based contraceptives can have.

It should be started 3 to 8 days or more before ovulation depending on the cycle length. This will stop the oestrogen surge which occurs 2-5 days before ovulation. This surge of oestrogen is necessary to complete the final step before ovulation. There's more information about the mid-cycle surge of hormones on the pregnancy page.

A study of progesterone contraception found a failure rate of 2.66 pregnancies per 100 women, which compares well with other methods. Please be aware that stress drops progesterone levels, so protection drops. Increase the amount used to cover the stressful time, or use a temporary alternate method. There's more information on this page.

Amounts of 100-200mg/day should be used.

It should be continued until bleeding occurs when it should be stopped. Resume using it again as outlined above.

Adverse symptoms... If symptoms are severe, it's advisable to use progesterone daily for the entire month, using it through any bleeding. Follow this procedure for 2-3 months or until stable. This ensures progesterone becomes the dominant hormone. Each time a break is taken for the follicular phase, ie from bleeding to ovulation, oestrogen rises again, and adverse symptoms return.

Once stable the cycle can be followed again. ie when the next period occurs, stop using the progesterone for the follicular phase, and resume again at ovulation. If this is not known, start again 12-14 days before bleeding.

For general use it's not necessary to know when ovulation occurs, beginning 12-14 days before bleeding is sufficient. But if pregnancy is the aim, it is necessary to know when ovulation occurs. The pregnancy page explains this in detail.

Very heavy, and/or continual bleeding... see the Menstruation page for information.

Stress... drops progesterone levels sharply, so adverse symptoms can return. The reason for this is cortisol, the stress hormone, is made from progesterone. The stress response is a survival instinct, so the body will use any available progesterone to convert it into cortisol to overcome the stress, be it acute or chronic, good or bad. Progesterone should be increased over any stressful time.

Oestrogen Dominance... This is a term coined to describe adverse symptoms which occur when first using progesterone. It generally occurs if 20-40mg/day progesterone is used. Dr Dalton's patients never experienced it as she gave them amounts varying between 400-800mg/day.

It also occurs in the early days of pregnancy with rising progesterone levels. If progesterone doesn't rise fast enough nausea, headaches, tiredness, high blood pressure and more can occur. The same symptoms can occur in the last month or so of pregnancy, when progesterone should be at it's peak. This can lead to pre-eclampsia.

It can also occur when first using progesterone, when increasing it, when decreasing it or stopping it. Or when changing brands of progesterone without taking into account the amount of progesterone in the product.

Many blame progesterone and reduce the amount they're using, ironically this does help. It's now no longer stimulating oestrogen, but defeats the purpose. Which is to suppress the excess oestrogen causing the adverse symptoms in the first place.

To prevent it happening progesterone should be increased. Ideally, high amounts should be used initially to prevent it occurring.
Adverse symptoms only occur when the ratio of progesterone to oestrogen becomes unbalanced.

They can occur from the last few days prior to and during bleeding, and are due to dropping progesterone levels, generally referred to as progesterone withdrawal. The medical term catamenial is used to describe them, from the Greek word for menses or menstruation. A more common term is PMS.

They can also occur just prior to and during ovulation. And they can occur during the entire luteal phase. Plus of course they can occur in the early days of pregnancy, throughout it's duration, or after birth.


In every case it's caused by a shortage of progesterone in ratio to oestrogen.

The higher the oestrogen, the lower the progesterone, the worse the symptoms.

Some of the severer symptoms which can occur are...
migraines
heart palpitations
seizures
anxiety and panic attacks
depression
asthma attacks
collapsed lung
post natal depression and psychosis after birth
If any of these symptoms are experienced prior to using progesterone, it's essential to use very high amounts to prevent worsening of symptoms due to oestrogen dominance, i.e. 400-500mg/day.

Oestrogen rises exponentially 2-5 days before ovulation. Progesterone should surge during these days too. This surge comes from the brain, and has nothing to do with the rise in progesterone after ovulation. If this surge does not take place, oestrogen will be dominant and severe symptoms can be experienced.

Oestrogen peaks mid-luteal phase. Progesterone should too. But if there's a failure in the corpus luteum to secrete sufficient progesterone during the luteal phase, or if ovulation does not take place, severe symptoms can be experienced throughout the luteal phase.

If the luteal phase proceeds normally, ie there is the pre-ovulatory surge in progesterone, ovulation takes place and the corpus luteum secretes sufficient, no adverse symptoms will be experienced.

But the rapid drop in progesterone levels the few days before bleeding are enough to cause adverse symptoms in many women.

The following pages give more information on other adverse problems...Breast cysts
Breast tenderness
Candida
Hot Flushes
Infertility
Ovarian Cysts
PCOS
Stress

From running Saliva Tests it's been found the ratio of progesterone to oestrogen should be 600:1 and over to feel well.Please have a vitamin D test done. For more info on vitamin D levels, test kits etc see...Vitamin D Council
GrassrootsHealth
Birmingham Hospital

Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here.

See the Hormone Testing page for more information on hormone levels.

See here for information on... progesterone testing methods

The following chart gives an idea of when to use progesterone during a cycle. Bearing in mind if adverse symptoms are experienced, progesterone should be used daily throughout the cycle until symptoms have gone.
Ovulation Chart...

The amount of progesterone to use is dependant on symptoms.Follicular phase... This starts on the first day of bleeding and ends at ovulation, no progesterone is used
Luteal phase... This starts from ovulation until bleeding. It is always, in all women, 12-14 days long

Progesterone should be used during the luteal phase.

For contraceptive purposes, deduct 5 to 8 days from the date of ovulation to start progesterone.

Approximate date of ovulation...

Cycle length

21 day
22 day
23 day
24 day
25 day
26 day
27 day
28 day
29 day
30 day
31 day
32 day
33 day
34 day
35 day

Day

7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21



Menstruation should start within a day or two of stopping the progesterone.
Here's a chart comparing ml and teaspoons...


Having read this you have now learnt pretty much all there to know about how to use progesterone cream, but please don't forget the important message about...

'oestrogen dominance'



And, finally, here's how and where to...

Buy Progesterone Cream

Read more: http://www.progesteronetherapy.com/how-to-use-progesterone-cream.html#ixzz2DYhRV6bd
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Progesterone Cream

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Tuesday 27 November 2012

Early "o"

Could I really be ovulating this early, very strange!

Mine is the purple one and the other is another persons who got preg ovulating on day "9"

Saturday 24 November 2012

Herbs and vit for fertility

Great site for us older ladies!!!

http://www.natural-health-for-fertility.com/secondary-infertility-age-factor.html

L-Arginine Increases Ovarian Response

L-Arginine Increases Ovarian Response

Many research papers have now proven how L-Arginine plays a very important role in rejuvenation and on human fertility.

A study published in 1999 in the journal of human reproduction, showed how L-Arginine supplementation increases ovarian response, endometrial receptivity, and pregnancy rates in IVF patients. L-Arginine is known to increase blood circulation to the uterus and ovaries allowing nutrients to reach the developing follicles, thus increasing egg production and quality.

Low Progesterone


Progesterone, a steroid hormone is recognized as an important female hormone. The word progesterone is related to the Latin word 'Gestare' which means 'to bear or carry'. This by itself suggests the importance of this hormone in providing a fertile environment for conception and the continuous development of the embryo. Progesterone is made by the ovary during ovulation.
Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/low-progesterone.html


Progesterone levels usually drop as women age!!!!

Progesterone levels usually drop as women age. By the time they reach 35, their progesterone levels have already dropped beyond the desired levels for conception

Going to try Maca too!!!

http://natural-fertility-info.com/maca

I am an addict of Vitex which has done wonders for my LP lengthening it from 9 days to 14 in 1 - 2 months. However I still feel my progesterone is too low from my low temps after o. They are about 36.60. They should be about 36.80 for me. I know I was pregnant the last 2 cycles but the fertilized egg failed to implant. So I am going to try thr following after lots of research!

Evening Primrose Oil 2000mg - 3000mg up until my Ovulation
Flexseed Oil Tablets after O 2000mg - 3000mg
Maca Roots all cycle long 3000mg
Vitex all cycle long 2000mg
Chloiophy
Iron Tablets
Folic Acid


I am also tempted to take Asprin, not sure yet!!!!

Group devoted to just low progesterone

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Low-Progesterone/Group-devoted-to-just-low-progesterone/show/1155625

Hi everyone! I thought I'd go ahead and create this group and see if people agree with me that there might be a need for a separate group focused on just the issue of low progesterone. After reading all over the internet, posting after posting from women with this problem, many resulting in miscarriage, I thought having a specialized group for this might be beneficial.

Myself right now, I just had a very low beta result on Thurs of 5, and a very low progesterone level of 4.25. I have been supplementing like mad with naturalprogesterone (varies with either Prometrium or progesterone vaginal suppositories or natural progesterone cream) but I don't think it's helping. My OB/GYN didn't sound at all hopeful when he said for me to go ahead and start supplementing. But basically I was only 8-10 days past ovulation when the beta was done, so I am praying that it is just really early and things might improve.

Any ideas? I've been told baby aspirin, garlic and **** quai. Thanks in advance, everyone!

Friday 23 November 2012

Progesterone and Fertility

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/what-is-baby-aspirin-and-how-is-it-related-to-fertility.html

Thursday 22 November 2012